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[Title of page changed. Old title was: WT-3: We imagine the flow of children and worship on a Worshiping Together Sunday]

(updated, 9/11, after Teacher Orientation) Beginning Sept. 26, children should be in their First Day School (FDS) classrooms at 10:55.

Worshiping Together(WT)-3 is THE MAIN PAGE for plans related to how a “Worshiping Together Sunday” will work.
The first WT Sunday will be September 26 or October 10.

(Sunday September 19 is the FDS ORGANIZING session. Parents and children gather in the Fellowship room at 11AM, and the kids will not go into the meetingroom at all that day. Sunday Oct. 3 is Family Meeting.)

Please offer us your comments at the bottom of this page, or bring your ideas about this to the Worshiping Together table during Fellowship time. Or email Richard at Richard.Osbo.Fuller at gmail.com.



(In roughly the order they will occur on a Sunday:)

*  There will be a handout for parents outlining how this is expected to work.

  • Will the handout offer suggestions about what to say to kids (of different ages) about what to look for, and how to behave?

On “FDS Sundays,” First Day School starts at 10:55.

First Day School Sundays are the 2nd, 3rd and 4th Sundays of the month.
(On the 1st Sunday of each month we have Family Meetings with children and adults gathering in the Fellowship Room at 11AM. This is in addition to the regular 11AM worship in the meetingroom. On the occasional 5th Sunday we have inter-generational worship: 30 minutes of centering worship in the meetingroom for all ages.)

On FDS Sundays parents should have children in the classroom by 10:55.

The first “FDS Sunday” will be Sept. 26.

While the start time of 10:55 is clear, the details of how and when the kids enter the meetingroom are still being worked out.

The first “Worshiping Together Sunday” will be Sept. 26 or Oct. 10.

PLAN:

  • Every week through October, all three main entry doors will have a sign posted, for that week, that tells parents and others what will happen that day.
  • This website will always have current information people can check about the upcoming Sunday. The information will be here, and there will be a link to it on the TCFM home page.
  • Richard Fuller, or another “FDS Greeter” will be stationed in the foyer each Sunday, ready to help.

* How much discretion can we give to individual classes, especially the teachers, about whether they come to Meeting for Worship on a given day?
CURRENT PLAN:

For now, for the first “Worshiping Together Sunday,” whether it happens on 9/26 or 10/10, let’s say each class is expected to arrive outside the meetingroom doors at 11:45. This will minimize the variables we have to cope with in the early stages.
After some experience we may discover  we can improve things even more by not expecting “every class, every week.” Still, that will be our goal, for starters.

  • Longer-term, can we encourage a feeling of choice, at least on the part of each teacher?

* CURRENT PLAN: children do NOT bring work done in class to the meeting room.
A drop-off point in the Library?

* How can we help preserve the centered atmosphere developed in the classroom as we move toward and into the meeting room?

  • How can we minimize a kid-jam outside the door, with the attendant jostling and distractions?
    • PROPOSAL: Teachers can ask for extra adults to accompany the class to the meetingroom doors.

* What about kids who are not ready for “Worship Together”?

  • Do we staff a room for kids who are not ready?
  • What if a significant part of the class has got a “thing” going, and the teacher expects they would be a disruption in the meeting room?
    DEFAULT: It’s not the teacher’s responsibility after the kids are inside the meetingroom. Then, it’s up to M&C.

IN THE MEETING ROOM, APPROX. 11:45-12:15, M&C has responsibility

• The Meeting Closer will be the one to get up and open the door to welcome the children.
The Closer will go out into the hall and close the door behind him/her.
Modeling quiet body language, and making sure the children are ready to go in,
the Closer will open the door and the children will come in quietly and find their seats.
OUTSTANDING ISSUE, to be considered in light of October’s experience.
Might a class decide to enter the worship earlier or later than 11:45?
• Family members will reserve a seat for their child (or FDS teacher) by placing a prepared FAMILY card on the seat next to them.
The child will go directly to their parent once the children are welcomed into the room.
• Older children can choose to sit away from family members. There is no reserved seating for classroom groups.
OUTSTANDING ISSUES, to be considered in light of October’s experience:
Will Advancement Committee door tenders make efforts during the initial 10:55-11:00 seating to ensure that there are a large number of fairly-accessible seats near the doors?
Do we want to arrange the chairs so that the aisles leading in from the main doors are broader?
• Students from classes that make any kind of craft will need to keep student work in the classroom to be picked up after Meeting for Worship.
• Soft toys will be available for the younger children to hold onto and use during worship
- rather than having the children bring toys from home.
OUTSTANDING ISSUE:
How & when will children choose such a toy?
• Other members of M&C should sit near the Meeting Closer, and be ready to step in if needed.

• Currently, many of the messages that are shared come in the last 15 minutes of worship
There is some concern about the effect the children will have.
Some messages may shift to a new rhythm over time as a result.
Messages during the last 15 minutes may be of special benefit to the children.

M&C will try this the first week we decide we are ready, and then revise it, as necessary.
Tom Stoffregen is the M&C contact person on this.

* Where will the youth sit, in the meeting room?

  • DRAFT PLAN: When a family knows ahead of time that the children (or teachers) MAY want to join family members already in the meetingroom, they should agree roughly where in the room they will sit. Preferably not too far from the doors.
  • CURRENT PLAN: Youth will not sit in classroom groups. The class ends when the kids enter the meetingroom and teachers are no longer responsible for the children at that point.

* What is considered “appropriate behavior” for kids during meeting for worship?
OUTSTANDING ISSUE:
What guidance do we give kids about standing and sharing in worship?

OUTSTANDING ISSUE:
* What if a child feels she needs to leave worship, to go to the bathroom or for another reason?

DEFAULT: Children who choose to sit with their parents can get guidance from them. Youth who choose to sit alone or with peers will rely on their resources.
OUTSTANDING ISSUE:
Will Advancement Committee have a member designated as a hall monitor who will be responsible in such a situation?

* M&C intends that announcements after worship will be compressed.

* What if a child is disruptive, or a group of children?
CURRENT PLAN:
If the child has chosen to sit with her family, the family members are responsible.
For children not sitting with their parents, the M&C member who is closing meeting is responsible, along with other M&C members present.

* How can we encourage opportunities for adults to talk to kids about “what just happened in worship”?

———————————-

* FDS and M&C encourage feedback about the new WT!

There is a table during the Fellowship time each week. People are encouraged to take their ideas & concerns there. Email and phone calls are also encouraged.


Issues by individual Classrooms

Nursery Children are not included in Worshiping Together

Parents will pick up their children in the Nursery after the rise of meeting.

Preschool

Preschoolers are included in WT

Kindergarden – First Grade

Second, Third & Fourth Grades

Fifth & Sixth Grades

Middle School

High School

Optional? Might come at least once a quarter?
Should feel invited.




The WT-3 version outdated on Sept. 11

(updated, 9/10)

Worshiping Together-3 is THE MAIN PAGE for plans related to how a “regular Sunday” will work. The first POSSIBLE regular Sunday would be September 26. (Sunday September 19 is the FDS ORGANIZING session. Parents and children gather in the Fellowship room at 11AM, and the kids will not go into the meetingroom at all that day.)

Please offer us your comments at the bottom of this page, or bring your ideas about this to the Worshiping Together table during Fellowship time. Or email Richard at Richard.Osbo.Fuller at gmail.com.

Outline for WT-3
:
1. Issues around the Worshiping Together activities in the meeting room, from about 11:45 to about 12:15

2. Issues that arise for the times before and after Worshiping Together



1. IN THE MEETING ROOM, APPROX. 11:45-12:15, M&C takes responsibility

• The Meeting Closer will be the one to get up and open the door to welcome the children.
The Closer will go out into the hall and close the door behind him/her.
Modeling quiet body language, and making sure the children are ready to go in,
the Closer will open the door and the children will come in quietly and find their seats.
OUTSTANDING ISSUES:
  1. Will some FDS classes have the option of not coming on a given Sunday?
  2. Might a class decide to enter the worship earlier or later than 11:45?
• Family members will reserve a seat for their child (or FDS teacher) by placing a prepared FAMILY card on the seat next to them.
The child will go directly to their parent once the children are welcomed into the room.
• Older children can choose to sit away from family members. There is no reserved seating for classroom groups.
?OUTSTANDING ISSUES:
  1. Will Advancement Committee door tenders make efforts during the initial 10:55-11:00 seating to ensure that there are a large number of fairly-accessible seats near the doors?
  2. Do we want to arrange the chairs so that the aisles leading in from the main doors are broader?
• Students from classes that make any kind of craft will need to keep student work in the classroom to be picked up after Meeting for Worship.
• Soft toys will be available for the younger children to hold onto and use during worship
- rather than having the children bring toys from home.
OUTSTANDING ISSUE:
How will children choose such a toy?
• Other members of M&C should sit near the Meeting Closer, and be ready to step in if needed.
• Currently, many of the messages that are shared come in the last 15 minutes of worship
There is some concern about the effect the children will have.
Some messages may shift to a new rhythm over time as a result.
Messages during the last 15 minutes may be of special benefit to the children.

M&C will try this the first week we decide we are ready, and then revise it, as necessary.
Tom Stoffregen is the M&C contact person on this.

* Where will the youth sit, in the meeting room?

  • DRAFT PLAN: When a family knows ahead of time that the children (or teachers) MAY want to join family members already in the meetingroom, they should agree roughly where in the room they will sit. Preferably not too far from the doors.
  • CURRENT PLAN: Youth will not sit in classroom groups. The class ends when the kids enter the meetingroom and teachers are no longer responsible for the children at that point.
OUTSTANDING ISSUE:

*Do we assume every class will be present in the meetingroom every week? May we leave it more gradual and at the discretion of teachers so that students are slipping in little by little with timing at the discretion of teachers?”

* What is considered “appropriate behavior” for kids during meeting for worship?

OUTSTANDING ISSUE:
  • What guidance do we give kids about standing and sharing in worship?
OUTSTANDING ISSUE:

* What if a child feels she needs to leave worship, to go to the bathroom or for another reason? DEFAULT: Children who choose to sit with their parents can get guidance from them. Youth who choose to sit alone or with peers will rely on their resources.
OUTSTANDING ISSUE: Will Advancement Committee have a member designated as a hall monitor who will be responsible in such a situation?

  • Will we have a list of “situations” like this, with suggested responses, to give interested parties?

* M&C intends that announcements after worship will be compressed.

* What if a child is disruptive, or a group of children?

  • CURRENT PLAN:
    • If the child has chosen to sit with her family, the family members are responsible.
    • For children not sitting with their parents, the M&C member who is closing meeting is responsible, along with other M&C members present.

———————————-

* FDS and M&C encourage feedback about the new WT!

There will be a table during the Fellowship time each week. People are encouraged to take their ideas & concerns there. Email and phone calls are also encouraged.

2. ISSUES IN THE TIMES BEFORE & AFTER “WT”

(In roughly the order they will occur on a Sunday:)

*  There will be a handout for parents outlining how this is expected to work.

  • Will the handout offer suggestions about what to say to kids (of different ages) about what to look for, and how to behave?

* Where do parents drop their kids, in order to arrive at worship before 11AM?
* How do teachers handle their pre-class preparation, before 11AM?

PROPOSAL: We have group singing from 10:45 to 10:59.
After taking off their coats, parents bring their children to this area, which might be in the Fellowship room or the Meetingroom. Parents can either sing with the group or leave the children.
After completing their preparation, teachers come to the singing area to join the singing and then gather their class, just before 11:00.

* What things can we do so that latecomers disrupt FDS classes as little as possible?

Is this really a problem? Is it more of a problem for some classes, less for others?

  • Latecomers go to a supervised play area rather than their FDS classrooms? Then kids join their classes as a “late group,” at ___ (11:20?)? Teachers can plan their activities with a break at that point, when it is easy to assimilate newcomers?

UNLIKELY IDEA: Madison Meeting offers a “Family breakfast” of oatmeal at 10:15. Families can arrive with some members still half-asleep and still be ready to go at 11:00.

* Since many details still remain to be decided, including when the first “Regular Sunday” actually will happen,
how will parents and others know what to do when they arrive on Sunday?
PLAN:

  • For the next many weeks, all three main entry doors will have a sign posted, for that week, that tells parents and others what will happen that day.
  • This website will always have current information people can check about the upcoming Sunday.
  • Richard Fuller, or another “FDS Facilitator” will be stationed in the foyer each Sunday, ready to help.

Other ways a new start-time can be publicized:

  • Announcements in the newsletter, announcement sheets, and a changed FDS brochure.

* What sort of positive preparation for entering worship do teachers give the kids?

  • Can teachers and others make suggestions about what might teachers say, generally, about meeting for worship?
    • What would it be good for teachers to say in the moments before the class gets up to go to the meeting room?
      Is someone willing to volunteer to author/edit a list of suggestions?

* How much discretion can we give to individual classes, especially the teachers, about whether they come to Meeting for Worship on a given day?

CURRENT PLAN:
PART A:
For now, to begin with, for the first “Regular Sunday,” whenever it happens, let’s say each class is expected to arrive outside the meetingroom doors at 10:45. This will minimize the variables we have to cope with in the early stages.
PART B: There may well be some “Preliminary Sundays,” when we experiment with just the older classes Worshiping Together, before the first “regular Sunday.”
TO SUMMARIZE, the goal during the ramping-up process is that we want eventually to see a month of Sundays when ALL the children are in worship with the adults.
We may discover during the ramping-up that this is not a good goal. Also, we may discover, if we successfully achieve the goal, that we can improve things even more by not expecting “every class, every week.” Still, that will be our goal, for starters.

  • Longer-term, can we encourage a feeling of choice, at least on the part of each teacher?

* CURRENT PLAN: children do NOT bring work done in class to the meeting room.
A drop-off point in the Library?

* How can we help preserve the centered atmosphere developed in the classroom as we move toward and into the meeting room?

  • How can we minimize a kid-jam outside the door, with the attendant jostling and distractions?
    • PROPOSAL: Teachers can ask for extra adults to accompany the class to the meetingroom doors.

* What about kids who are not ready for “Worship Together”?

  • Do we staff a room for kids who are not ready?
  • What if a significant part of the class has got a “thing” going, and the teacher expects they would be a disruption in the meeting room?
    DEFAULT: It’s not the teacher’s responsibility after the kids are inside the meetingroom. Then, it’s up to M&C.

* How can we encourage opportunities for adults to talk to kids about “what just happened in worship”?


Issues by individual Classrooms

Preschool

Are Preschoolers included in WT?

Kindergarden – First Grade

Second, Third & Fourth Grades

Fifth & Sixth Grades

Middle School

High School

Not included?
Optional? Might come at least once a quarter?
Should feel invited.

The WT-3 version outdated on Sept. 8

1. IN THE MEETING ROOM, APPROX. 11:45-12:15, M&C takes responsibility

HERE IS THE PLAN: M & C has responsibility for what happens with the children after they arrive at the meeting room door.

• The Meeting Closer will be the one to get up and open the door to welcome the children.
The Closer will go out into the hall and close the door behind him/her.
Modeling quiet body language, and making sure the children are ready to go in,
the Closer will open the door and the children will come in quietly and find their seats.
• Family members will reserve a seat for their child (or FDS teacher) by placing a prepared FAMILY card on the seat next to them.
The child will go directly to their parent once the children are welcomed into the room.
• Older children can choose to sit away from family members. There is no reserved seating for classroom groups.
• Students from classes that make any kind of craft will need to keep student work in the classroom to be picked up after Meeting for Worship.
• M&C will let parents know that soft toys will be available for the younger children to hold onto and use during worship
- rather than having the children bring toys from home.
• Other members of M&C should sit near the Meeting Closer, and be ready to step in if needed.
• Currently, many of the messages that are shared come in the last 15 minutes of worship
There is some concern about the effect the children will have.
Some messages may shift to a new rhythm over time as a result.
Messages during the last 15 minutes may be of special benefit to the children.

M&C will try this the first week we decide we are ready, and then revise it, as necessary.
Tom Stoffregen is the M&C contact person on this.

* Where will the youth sit, in the meeting room?

  • PROPOSED: When a family knows ahead of time that the children (or teachers) will want to join family members already in the meetingroom, they should agree roughly where in the room they will sit. Preferably not too far from the doors.
  • CURRENT PLAN: Youth will not sit in classroom groups. The class ends when the kids enter the meetingroom and teachers are no longer responsible for the children at that point.

Comments from Teachers:

  • In Texas, children came in at the end. The teachers come with special chairs.
    And in Durango –a smaller meeting– children sat with another adult that wasn’t a parent.
  • I like the idea of kids staying with the teachers.
  • I don’t like what I’ve seen in other meetings, when kids crawl around in a designated area.

*Do we assume every class will be present in the meetingroom every week?

One teacher writes:

I hope the time period for entering meeting is not frozen at 11:45 when the doors open and masses pour in like clockwork.
May we leave it more gradual and at the discretion of teachers so that students are slipping in little by little with timing at the discretion of teachers?”

* What is considered “appropriate behavior” for kids during meeting for worship?

  • What guidance do we give kids about standing and sharing in worship?

Comments from Teachers:

  • We gave kids paper and pencils and what they wrote was beautiful.
  • It isn’t about silence but respect for a sacred space.
    Even it a kid hasn’t yet grown into an ability for silent worship, they can learn respectful behavior.
    I want them to have a positive experience of meaning.

* What if a child feels she needs to leave worship, to go to the bathroom or for another reason?

  • Will we have a list of “situations” like this, with suggested responses, to give interested parties?

* Will announcements after worship be made as they are now?

  • One class a month might introduce the class members to the meeting.

* What if a child is disruptive, or a group of children?

  • PROPOSED: If the child has chosen to sit with her family, the family members are responsible.
    CURRENT PLAN: For children not sitting with their parents, the M&C member who is closing meeting is responsible, along with other M&C members present.

* What if  a child is upset by something during worship, an expression of grief or other strong emotion by an adult worshiper?

  • DEFAULTS: The child will find help from a trusted source. An adult who has some context with the child may approach him or her.

* How, after the handshake, can we encourage children and youth who have done well, sitting in worship?

One teacher writes:
Kids who sat through meeting got a certificate In the “Black Hat Society.”

———————————-

* How will FDS and M&C encourage feedback about the new WT?

CURRENT PLAN:
There will be a table during the Fellowship time each week for several weeks before and after the new procedures are in place,
People will be encouraged to take their ideas there. Email and phone calls are also encouraged.

* What if you, an adult, are bothered?

  • Are there any guidelines for judging
    • “this is my problem, a challenge to my spiritual growth” vs.
    • “this is a problem our community needs to address” ?

    DEFAULT: Feel free to bring up issues at the WT table during Fellowship, or with someone on FDS or M&C with whom you feel comfortable.
    “My problem vs. Our Problem” should not be an issue in this exploratory conversation.

2. ISSUES IN THE TIMES BEFORE & AFTER “WT”

(In roughly the order they will occur on a Sunday:)

* Will there be a handout for parents outlining how this is expected to work?

  • Will a handout offer suggestions about what to say to kids (of different ages) about what to look for, and how to behave?

* How do teachers handle their pre-class preparation, before 11AM?

PROPOSAL: We start by having child-care available from 10:30 to 10:45 where teachers can drop their kids while they prepare for class. This ends with group singing, which starts at 10:45.

* When do teachers need to be in their classrooms, ready to receive students?
PROPOSAL: We have group singing from 10:45 to 10:59.
After taking off their coats, parents bring their children to this area. Parents can either sing with the group or leave the children and go to the meetingroom.
Teachers come to the singing area to gather their class, shortly before 11:00.

* How do we handle the likely “drop-off drift”? As we know all too well, families tend to run late.
Setting a tone, “you won’t want to be late for this,” is good.
ALTERNATE IDEA: Madison Meeting offers a “Family breakfast” of oatmeal at 10:15. Families can arrive with some members still half-asleep and still be ready to go at 11:00.

  • What other things can we do so that latecomers disrupt our efforts as little as possible?
    Latecomers go to “Extended Singing” rather than their FDS classrooms? Kids join their classes as a “late group,” at 11:20. Teachers can plan their work with a break at that point, when it is easy to assimilate newcomers?

* How many ways are there, that a new start-time can be publicized?

  • Large sign in the entry way,
    prominent notice on the website,
    as well as newsletters, announcement sheets, changes to the FDS brochure, etc.

* What sort of positive preparation for entering worship do teachers give the kids?

  • Can teachers and others make suggestions about what might teachers say, generally, about meeting for worship?
    • What would it be good for teachers to say in the moments before the class gets up to go to the meeting room?
      Is someone willing to volunteer to author/edit a list of suggestions?

* How much discretion can we give to individual classes, especially the teachers, about whether they come to Meeting for Worship on a given day?

  • Can we encourage a feeling of choice? A “yes, let’s go!” feeling, at least for the teachers and classes who need it?

* CURRENT PLAN: children do NOT bring work done in class to the meeting room.
a drop-off point in the Library?

* How can we help preserve the centered atmosphere developed in the classroom as we move toward and into the meeting room?

  • How can we minimize a kid-jam outside the door, with the attendant jostling and distractions?
    • PROPOSAL: Teachers can ask for extra adults to accompany the class to the meetingroom doors.

* What about kids who are not ready for “Worship Together”?

  • Do we staff a room for kids who are not ready?
  • What if much of the class has got a “thing” going, and the teacher expects they would be a disruption in the meeting room?
    DEFAULT: It’s not the teacher’s responsibility after the kids are inside the meetingroom. Then, it’s up to M&C.

* How can we encourage opportunities for adults to talk to kids about “what just happened in worship”?


Issues by individual Classrooms

Preschool

Are Preschoolers included in WT?

Kindergarden – First Grade

Second, Third & Fourth Grades

Fifth & Sixth Grades

Middle School

High School

Not included?
Optional? Might come at least once a quarter?
Should feel invited.

The WT-3 version outdated on Aug. 30

1. IN THE MEETING ROOM, APPROX. 11:45-12:15

M & C will take responsibility for what happens with the children when they arrive at the meeting room door. They have agreed on a draft plan and are writing it up. They will try it the first week and then revise it, as necessary. Tom Stoffregen is the M&C contact person on this.

We will post the M&C plan here, when we get it.

* Where will the youth sit, in the meeting room?

  • Some kids will want to sit with their parents.
    • When a family knows ahead of time that the children will want to join the parents, where should the parents sit?
    • How should they reserve a seat for the child, if they think it will be needed?
  • Most FDS Classes will enter the meeting room as groups. Shall we reserve group seating?

Comments from Teachers:

  • In Texas, children came in at the end. The teachers come with special chairs.
    And in Durango –a smaller meeting– children sat with another adult that wasn’t a parent.
  • I like the idea of kids staying with the teachers.
  • I don’t like what I’ve seen in other meetings, when kids crawl around in a designated area.

* How will youth enter the meeting room?

  • What weeks will we see children?
    • Do we assume every class will be present every week?

Current Plan: The Ministry & Counsel member who will be closing meeting will open the doors at the right time, and welcome the children in.

  • Older classes first?
    A semi-formal procession?
    An order that has a logic for the kids, and that they recognize how to play their part in?

One teacher writes:
I hope the time period for entering meeting is not frozen at 11:45 when the doors open and masses pour in like clockwork.
May we leave it more gradual and at the discretion of teachers so that students are slipping in little by little with timing at the discretion of teachers?”

* What is considered “appropriate behavior” for kids during meeting for worship?

  • What guidance do we give kids about standing and sharing in worship?

Comments from Teachers:

  • We gave kids paper and pencils and what they wrote was beautiful.
  • It isn’t about silence but respect for a sacred space. Even it a kid hasn’t yet grown into an ability for silent worship, they can learn respectful behavior. I want them to have a positive experience of meaning.

* What if a child feels she needs to leave worship, to go to the bathroom or for another reason?

  • Will we have a list of “situations” like this, with suggested responses, to give interested parties?

* Will announcements after worship be made as they are now?

  • One class a month might introduce the class members to the meeting.

* What if a child is disruptive, or a group of children?

  • Who’s responsibility is this?
    The M&C member who is closing meeting?

* What if a teacher can tell that a child is upset by something during worship?

  • An expression of grief or other strong emotion by an adult worshiper?
  • a generic sharing by an adult that the teacher knows is likely to touch a sensitive spot for a particular child?

* How, after the handshake, can we encourage children and youth who have done well, sitting in worship?

One teacher writes:
Kids who sat through meeting got a certificate In the “Black Hat Society.”

———————————-

* How will FDS and M&C encourage feedback about the new WT?

CURRENT PLAN:
There will be a table during the Fellowship time each week, and people will be encouraged to take their ideas there. Email and phone calls will also be encouraged.

* What if you, an adult, are bothered?

  • Are there any guidelines for judging
    • “this is my problem, a challenge to my spiritual growth” vs.
    • “this is a problem our community needs to address” ?

2. ISSUES IN THE TIMES BEFORE & AFTER “WT”

(In roughly the order they will occur on a Sunday:)

* Will there be a handout for parents outlining how this is expected to work?

  • Will a handout offer suggestions about what to say to kids (of different ages) about what to look for, and how to behave?

* How do teachers handle pre-class preparation?

PROPOSAL: We start by having child-care available from 10:30 to 10:50 where teachers can drop their kids while they prepare for class.

* When do teachers need to be in their classrooms, ready to receive students?
PROPOSAL: Teachers are ready for students at 10:45, with a “hard start” to structured activities at 10:55 and the expectation that parents will have dropped their kids and gone by then.

* How do we handle the likely “drop-off drift”?
As we know all too well, families tend to run late.
Setting a tone, “you won’t want to be late for this,” is good.

  • What other things can we do so that latecomers disrupt our efforts as little as possible?
    Latecomers go to “childcare” rather than their FDS classrooms?

* How many ways are there, that a new start-time can be publicized?

  • Large sign in the entry way,
    prominent notice on the website,
    as well as newsletters, announcement sheets, changes to the FDS brochure, etc.

* What sort of positive preparation for entering worship do teachers give the kids?

  • Can teachers and others make suggestions about what might teachers say, generally, about meeting for worship?
  • What would it be good for teachers to say in the moments before the class gets up to go to the meeting room?

* How much discretion can we give to individual classes, especially the teachers, about whether they come to Meeting for Worship on a given day?

  • Can we encourage a feeling of choice? A “yes, let’s go!” feeling, at least for the teachers and classes who need it?

* CURRENT PLAN: children do NOT bring work done in class to the meeting room if it is bulky or potentially messy.

* How can we help preserve the centered atmosphere developed in the classroom as we move toward and into the meeting room?

  • How can we minimize a kid-jam outside the door, with the attendant jostling and distractions?
    • PROPOSAL: Teachers can ask for extra adults to accompany the class to the meetingroom doors.

* What about kids who are not ready for “Worship Together”?

  • Do we staff a room for kids who are not ready?
  • What if most of the class has got a “thing” going,
    and the teacher expects they would be a disruption in the meeting room?

* How can we encourage opportunities for adults to talk to kids about “what just happened in worship”?

Issues by individual Classrooms

Preschool

Are Preschoolers included in WT?

Kindergarden – First Grade
Second, Third & Fourth Grades
Fifth & Sixth Grades
Middle School
High School

Not included? Optional? Might come occasionally? Should feel invited.

The WT-3 version outdated on August 28

1. IN THE MEETING ROOM, APPROX. 11:45-12:15

* Where will the youth sit, in the meeting room?

  • Some kids will want to sit with their parents.
    • When a family knows ahead of time that the children will want to join the parents, where should the parents sit?
    • How should they reserve a seat for the child, if they think it will be needed?
      Paper plates on seats where a child is expected?
  • Most FDS Classes will enter the meeting room as groups. How shall we reserve group seating?

* How will youth enter the meeting room?

  • What weeks will we see children?
    • Do we assume every class will be present every week?
    • What about children who are “not ready to enter silent worship” on a particular day, at 11:45?
  • Issues around HOW children enter
    • Who determines that “the coast is clear,” that no one is currently speaking out of the silence?
      • How long might children be asked to wait, while a speaker finishes?
    • Older classes first?
      A semi-formal procession?
      An order that has a logic for the kids, and that they recognize how to play their part in?

* What if a child feels she needs to leave worship, to go to the bathroom or for another reason?

  • Will we have a list of “situations” like this, with suggested responses, to give teachers (& parents)?

* Will announcements after worship be made as they are now?

* What if a child is disruptive, or a group of children?

  • Who’s responsibility is this? (When kids come in at 11, they are under the care of their parents.)
  • In “Worshiping Together” would the responsible adult be the teacher the child came in with?
    The M&C member who is closing meeting?

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* How will FDS and M&C encourage feedback about the new WT?

  • Will feedback from youth and parents be actively solicited by teachers?
  • How do teachers get feedback to FDS Committee or M&C?
  • How will adults who are not teachers or parents make suggestions or register concerns?

* What if you, an adult, are bothered?

  • Are there any guidelines for judging
    • “this is my problem, a challenge to my spiritual growth” vs.
    • “this is a problem our community needs to address” ?

2. ISSUES IN THE TIMES BEFORE & AFTER “WT”

(In roughly the order they will occur on a Sunday:)

* Will there be a handout for parents outlining how this is expected to work?

  • Will it offer suggestions about what to say to kids (of different ages) about what to look for, and how to behave?
  • Not just a bunch of “don’ts.”

* How do teachers handle pre-class preparation?

  • Some teachers have been using 11:00 to 11:15 as preparation time. What will they do?
    • Can there be a place for these teachers’ children, before 11,
      allowing the teachers who are also parents a chance to prepare for their class?

* When do teachers need to be in their classrooms, ready to receive students?

* What sort of positive preparation for entering worship do teachers give the kids?

  • Not just a bunch of “don’ts.”
  • What might teachers say, generally, about meeting for worship?
  • What would it be good for teachers to say in the moments before the class gets up to go to the meeting room?

* Does a child bring work done in class to the meeting room?

* How can we help preserve the centered atmosphere developed in the classroom as we move toward and into the meeting room?

  • How can we minimize a kid-jam outside the door, with the attendant jostling and distractions?

* What about kids who are not ready for “Worship Together”?

  • Do we staff a room for kids who are not ready?
  • What if most of the class has got a “thing” going,
    and the teacher expects they would be a disruption in the meeting room?

* What if a teacher can tell that a child is upset by something during worship?

  • An expression of grief or other strong emotion by an adult worshiper?
  • a generic sharing by an adult that the teacher knows is likely to touch a sensitive spot for a particular child?

* How can we encourage opportunities for adults to talk to kids about “what just happened in worship”?

* How, after the handshake, can we encourage children and youth who have done well, sitting in worship?




Outline of the WT posts on the TCFM website:

  • WT-1: Current updates to Worshiping Together process
  • WT-2: Introduction to the “Worshiping Together” process
  • WT-3: What we expect the next few Sundays to look like, before further tweaking.
  • WT-3-OLD: “WT-3″ will always reflect the current thinking. To keep WT-3 as uncomplicated as possible we will remove ideas that have been discussed and set aside. Friends who want to see what WT-3 looked like BEFORE the current version can go to WT-3-OLD.
  • WT-4: Preparations we as a community may need to make to achieve the goal of a rewarding inter-generational worship experience. THIS IS now THE MAIN PAGE FOR YOUR BEST THOUGHTS
  • WT-5: Open issues, concerns, exceptions, things to be mindful of. As we approach general agreement about “how are we going to do this,” I imagine this will be a place to record and keep track of “paths not (currently) taken.” If we agree on a course of action over the objections of some, let those objections be recorded here, with proposed alternatives, if possible. Then if things develop the way the objectors feared they would, we have a record in community memory, and perhaps some suggestions about alternative ways to proceed. This will be a place to stockpile dissenting opinions, and outstanding issues that we will do well to remember as we encounter the realities of the process as it unfolds. I will also use this area to archive all comments made, after they have been incorporated into the body of the work.
  • WT-6: Jokes about what is happening, or might happen.

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